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1 INTRODUCTION


1.1 Document Description

A flying saucer crashed near Roswell, New Mexico, in
1947. This document contains testimony from people who
were closely associated with this incident.
Most of the testimony in this document is from the 1992
book "Crash at Corona" by Stanton Friedman and Don
Berliner, published in the United States by Paragon
House. That book contains lots of other interesting
material, including material regarding another crash
site in New Mexico. That book is the source of all
testimony in this document except where noted.
1.2 Sequence of Events

On July 2, 1947, during the evening, a flying saucer
crashed on the Foster Ranch near Corona, New Mexico. The
crash occurred during a severe thunderstorm. (The
military base nearest the crash site is in Roswell, New
Mexico; hence, Roswell is more closely associated with
this event than Corona, even though Corona is closer to
the crash site.)
On July 3, 1947, William "Mac" Brazel (rhymes with
"frazzle") and his 7-year-old neighbor Dee Proctor found
the remains of the crashed flying saucer. Brazel was
foreman of the Foster Ranch. The pieces were spread out
over a large area, perhaps more than half a mile long.
When Brazel drove Dee back home, he showed a piece of
the wreckage to Dee's parents, Floyd and Loretta
Proctor. They all agreed the piece was unlike anything
they had ever seen.
On July 6, 1947, Brazel showed pieces of the wreckage to
Chaves County Sheriff George Wilcox. Wilcox called
Roswell Army Air Field (AAF) and talked to Major Jesse
Marcel, the intelligence officer. Marcel drove to the
sheriff's office and inspected the wreckage. Marcel
reported to his commanding officer, Colonel William
"Butch" Blanchard. Blanchard ordered Marcel to get
someone from the Counter Intelligence Corps, and to
proceed to the ranch with Brazel, and to collect as much
of the wreckage as they could load into their two
vehicles.
Soon after this, military police arrived at the
sheriff's office, collected the wreckage Brazel had left
there, and delivered the wreckage to Blanchard's office.
The wreckage was then flown to Eighth Air Force
headquarters in Fort Worth, and from there to
Washington.
Meanwhile, Marcel and Sheridan Cavitt of the Counter
Intelligence Corps drove to the ranch with Mac Brazel.
They arrived late in the evening. They spent the night
in sleeping bags in a small out-building on the ranch,
and in the morning proceeded to the crash site.
On July 7, 1947, Marcel and Cavitt collected wreckage
from the crash site. After filling Cavitt's vehicle with
wreckage, Marcel told Cavitt to go on ahead, that Marcel
would collect more wreckage, and they would meet later
back at Roswell AAF. Marcel filled his vehicle with
wreckage. On the way back to the air field, Marcel
stopped at home to show his wife and son the strange
material he had found.
On July 7, 1947, around 4:00 pm, Lydia Sleppy at Roswell
radio station KSWS began transmitting a story on the
teletype machine regarding a crashed flying saucer out
on the Foster Ranch. Transmission was interrupted,
seemingly by the FBI.
On July 8, 1947, in the morning, Marcel and Cavitt
arrived back at Roswell AAF with two carloads of
wreckage. Marcel accompanied this wreckage, or most it,
on a flight to Fort Worth AAF.
On July 8, 1947, around noon, Colonel Blanchard at
Roswell AAF ordered Second Lieutenant Walter Haut to
issue a press release telling the country that the Army
had found the remains of a crashed a flying saucer. Haut
was the public information officer for the 509th Bomb
Group at Roswell AAF. Haut delivered the press release
to Frank Joyce at radio station KGFL. Joyce waited long
enough for Haut to return to the base, then called Haut
there to confirm the story. Joyce then sent the story on
the Western Union wire to the United Press bureau.
On July 8, 1947, in the afternoon, General Clemence
McMullen in Washington spoke by telephone with Colonel
(later Brigadier General) Thomas DuBose in Fort Worth,
chief of staff to Eighth Air Force Commander General
Roger Ramey. McMullen ordered DuBose to tell Ramey to
quash the flying saucer story by creating a cover story,
and to send some of the crash material immediately to
Washington.
On July 8, 1947, in the afternoon, General Roger Ramey
held a press conference at Eighth Air Force headquarters
in Fort Worth in which he announced that what had
crashed at Corona was a weather balloon, not a flying
saucer. To make this story convincing, he showed the
press the remains of a damaged weather balloon that he
claimed was the actual wreckage from the crash site.
(Apparently, the obliging press did not ask why the Army
hurriedly transported weather balloon wreckage to Fort
Worth, Texas, site of the press conference, from the
crash site in a remote area of New Mexico.)
The only newspapers that carried the initial flying
saucer version of the story were evening papers from the
Midwest to the West, including the Chicago Daily News,
the Los Angeles Herald Express, the San Francisco
Examiner, and the Roswell Daily Record. The New York
Times, the Washington Post, and the Chicago Tribune were
morning papers and so carried only the cover-up story
the next morning.
At some point, a large group of soldiers were sent to
the debris field on the Foster Ranch, including a lot of
MPs whose job was to limit access to the field. A wide
search was launched well beyond the limits of the debris
field. Within a day or two, a few miles from the debris
field, the main body of the flying saucer was found, and
a mile or two from that several bodies of small
humanoids were found.
The military took Mac Brazel into custody for about a
week, during which time he was seen on the streets of
Roswell with a military escort. His behavior aroused the
curiosity of friends when he passed them without any
sign of recognition. Following this period of detention,
Brazel repudiated his initial story.
2 THE CIVILIANS

2.1 Loretta Proctor

[NB: In the sections of this document that contain
testimony, all text not enclosed in brackets, like those
that enclose this sentence, is verbatim testimony.]
[Loretta Proctor, Mac Brazel's nearest neighbor, was one
of the first to see pieces of the wreckage Brazel had
found. She was interviewed in July 1990.]
[Mac] had this piece of material that he had picked up.
He wanted to show it to us and wanted us to go down and
see the rest of the debris or whatever, [but] we didn't
on account of the transportation and everything wasn't
too good. He didn't get anybody to come out who was
interested in it. The piece he brought looked like a
kind of tan, lightbrown plastic. It was very
lightweight, like balsa wood. It wasn't a large piece,
maybe about four inches long, maybe just a little larger
than a pencil.
We cut on it with a knife and would hold a match on it,
and it wouldn't burn. We knew it wasn't wood. It was
smooth like plastic, it didn't have a real sharp
corners, kind of like a dowel stick. Kind of dark tan.
It didn't have any grain, just smooth. I hadn't seen
anything like it.
[The following statement by Loretta Proctor suggests the
possibility that Mac Brazel had been bribed to keep
quiet.]
I think that within that year, he had moved off the
ranch and moved to Alamagordo or to Tularosa and he put
in a locker there. That was before people had home
freezers, and it was a large refrigerated building. You
would buy beef and cut it up and put it in those lockers
and you had a key to it and you could get your beef out
when you wanted it. I think it would have been pretty
expensive, and we kind of wondered how he could put it
in with rancher's wages.
[Here is what Loretta Proctor said on the American
television program "Unsolved Mysteries".]
Floyd [Loretta's husband] and a neighbor was in Roswell
and saw Mac surrounded by some of the Air Force people.
And they walked right by them and Mac wouldn't speak to
them. They thought it was kind of funny, I guess, really
wondered what he'd got into. And Mac, he wouldn't talk
about it after he come back home. But he did say if he
ever found something else he wouldn't report it.
2.2 Marian Strickland

[Marian Strickland was a neighbor of Mac Brazel. She was
interviewed in 1990.]
[Mac] made it plain he was not supposed to tell that
there was any excitement about the material he found on
the ranch. He was a man who had integrity. He definitely
felt insulted and mis-used, and disrespected. He was
worse than annoyed. He was definitely under some stress,
and felt that he had been kicked around.
He was threatened that if he opened his mouth, he might
get thrown in the back side of the jail. He gave that
impression, definitely.
2.3 Bessie Brazel Schreiber

[Bessie Brazel Schreiber is Mac Brazel's daughter. Here
is her description of wreckage from the crash.]
[The material resembled] a sort of aluminum-like foil.
Some of [these] pieces had a sort of tape stuck to them.
Even though the stuff looked like tape, it could not be
peeled off or removed at all. Some of these pieces had
something like numbers and lettering on them, but there
were no words we were able to make out. The figures were
written out like you would write numbers in columns, but
they didn't look like the numbers we use at all.
[There was also] a piece of something made out of the
same metal-like foil that looked like a pipe sleeve.
About four inches across and equally long, with a flange
on one end. [Also] what appeared to be pieces of heavily
waxed paper.
2.4 William Brazel Jr

[William Brazel Jr is Mac Brazel's son. Here is his
description of wreckage from the crash.]
[One of the pieces looked like] something on the order
of tinfoil, except that [it] wouldn't tear.... You could
wrinkle it and lay it back down and it immediately
resumed its original shape... quite pliable, but you
couldn't crease or bend it like ordinary metal. Almost
like a plastic, but definitely metallic. Dad once said
that the Army had once told him it was not anything made
by us.
[There was also] some threadlike material. It looked
like silk, but was not silk, a very strong material
[without] strands or fibers like silk would have. This
was more like a wire, all one piece or substance.
[There were also] some wooden-like particles like balsa
wood in weight, but a bit darker in color and much
harder.... It was pliable but wouldn't break. Weighed
nothing, but you couldn't scratch it with your
fingernail. All I had was a few small bits. [There was
no writing or markings on the pieces I had] but Dad did
say one time that there were what he called "figures" on
some of the pieces he found. He often referred to the
petroglyphs the ancient Indians drew on the rocks around
here as "figures", too, and I think that's what he meant
to compare them with.
[Here are other remarks by William Brazel Jr.]
My dad found this thing and he told me a little bit
about it, not much, because the Air Force asked him to
take an oath that he wouldn't tell anybody in detail
about it. He went to his grave and he never told
anybody.
He was an old-time Western cowboy, and they didn't do a
lot of talking. My brother and I had just went through
World War II (him in the Army and me in the Navy) and
needless to say, my dad was proud. Like he told me,
"When you guys went in the service, you took an oath,
and I took an oath not to tell." The only thing he said
was, "Well, there's a big bunch of stuff, and there's
some tinfoil, some wood, and on some of that wood there
was Japanese or Chinese figures."
[At the time of the crash, William Brazel Jr had been
living and working in Albuquerque, but returned when his
father was taken into custody and thus there was no one
to run the ranch.]
I rode out there [the field where the wreckage was
found] on the average of once a week, and I was riding
through that area, I was looking. That's why I found
those little pieces.
Not over a dozen pieces. I'd say maybe eight different
pieces. But there was only three [different] items
involved: something on the order of balsa wood,
something on the order of heavy-gauge monofilament
fishing line, and a little piece of -- it wasn't
tinfoil, it wasn't lead foil -- a piece about the size
of my finger. Some of it was like balsa wood: real light
and kind of neutral color, more of a tan. To the best of
my memory, there wasn't any grain in it. Couldn't break
it, it'd flex a little. I couldn't whittle it with my
pocket knife.
The "string", I couldn't break it. The only reason I
noticed the tinfoil (I'm gonna call it tinfoil), I
picked this stuff up and put it in my chaps pocket.
Might be two or three days or a week before I took it
out and put it in a cigar box. I happened to notice when
I put that piece of foil in that box, and the damn thing
just started unfolding and just flattened out. Then I
got to playing with it. I'd fold it, crease it, lay it
down and it'd unfold. It's kinda wierd. I couldn't tear
it. The color was in between tinfoil and lead foil,
about the [thickness] of lead foil.
I was in Corona, in the bar, the pool hall. Sort of the
meeting place, domino parlor.... That's where everybody
got together. Everybody was asking, they'd seen the
papers (this was about a month aft


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