Jupp Newsletter
ISSUE 9
DECEMBER 2002
Welcome to the 9th quarterly Issue of the Jupp Newsletter and I would like to wish all our Jupp Researchers a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
– Mark Gooch
Contents:
New Researchers
Return to the 1901 Census
More Census News
BMD Update
Interesting Websites
Archives
New Researchers
I would like to welcome the following researchers who have submitted their details for inclusion on the Researchers Page.
Rosie Burgess is from Trowbridge in Wiltshire. She is interested in the descendants of a William Jupp & Rebecca Bax. William, born 1771 in Horsham, Sussex began a Malting business in Brentford, Middlesex.
William (Bill) John Mallet II is from Columbus, Georgia, USA. He is looking for other descendants of an Alfred Jupp, who was a Coachman to the King & Queen of England in the 1880's.
Finally, Linda Hendley from Nottingham has added an entry regarding a Henry Jupp. He was a Silver stamper in the area of Nether Hallam, Sheffield around 1900.
Any follow-ups to these would be much appreciated. Full details on the Researchers Page.
Has anyone had any luck through the Researchers Page? I would like to hear about it.
Emails to genealogy1@sprignall.freeserve.co.uk
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Return to the 1901 Census - by John Gooch
1) AT LAST THE 1901
A few newsletters ago I wrote about the frustrations that arose when the 1901 census crashed and burned. Despite the optimistic messages I was perhaps not alone in wondering if we would ever see it rise like a phoenix from the ashes. In the first days after its demise I had returned quite regularly to the site only to find the same "shut for repairs" messages. Gradually my visits became fewer and further between and it was almost a surprise when I found it once again open for (limited) business. It was a little like some cautious wild animal emerging from its burrow: very slow and very careful. Gradually the hours of business extended and it was time for me to once again dip my toe into the water.
Not that I had been completely idle in the meantime. Even my very limited first experience had taught me one valuable lesson: namely that you cannot be too prepared. So, I had been through all my family tree and drawn up a list of all those family members who would, should and could have been alive in 1901. Alongside each name I had listed the expected age and place of birth together with any other possible clues (occupation and last known address for example). This time I was ready.
2) CONFIRMING THE KNOWN
Where to start? (And for the sake of this piece I am only concerned about our Jupp links to the 1901 census). I decided to begin with the known (or at least those that I thought we knew).
First and foremost just had to be my Great Grandfather John Lewis Jupp. In many ways he has been at the centre of our research and probably one of the main reasons I ever got interested in trying to trace my family tree. Here we had a man who was born in 1851 and lived well into the 20th Century (he died in 1935) thus spanning great changes in the social history of our country. He was also significant in that he was married twice and had over ten children (ample opportunity for branches to spread everywhere). We already knew that he was married for the second time in 1900 so we were hoping that in 1901 we would find him together with his new wife and presumably the younger, unmarried children from his first marriage. On searching, there he was, living in Edmonton with his second wife Ellen and four children from his first marriage. Three of these we were already familiar with: Emma (now 12), Albert (now 10) and Ann (now 5). Also there was another son George H (aged 14) who we had not known about but whom we think is probably the Harry we had already listed. This was a good start and a welcome boost to our faith in the system.
3) WELCOME TO THE FAMILY
Having confirmed that at least the census was working properly I decided to turn my attention to two other members of the tree that I hoped would be easy enough to find.
John Lewis Jupp had been the youngest of four children with an elder brother George and elder sisters Maria and Catherine. We knew that Maria had an illegitimate child in 1873, a boy that she named Thomas Lewis Jupp. Again the Lewis connection, coming we believe, from the surname of the mother of John Lewis and his siblings (she was Ann Lewis before her marriage to Thomas Jupp.). We had already traced the Thomas Lewis through his early life up until his marriage in 1896 in Worth, Sussex, to a Barbara Roberts. (He had left London with his grandparents Thomas and Ann and his mother Maria when they moved to East Grinstead sometime between 1861 and 1881). We searched and soon found him, still living in East Grinstead, together with his wife Barbara and family. He seems to have undergone another occupation change since his marriage, having gone from being a printer to a House Painter. It was nice to see his mother, Maria still with them (now aged 54) and nice to welcome a new addition to our family tree in their daughter, Hilda aged 2.
Our second target was another Thomas Jupp, this time the eldest son of John Lewis Jupp. He had been born in 1881 in Islington and named Thomas John. We had traced a marriage for him in 1900 to an Annie Selina Eaves, so had every expectation of finding them in 1901, probably in the Edmonton area since this was where they had married. Our first search yielded nothing and even when we widened the search criteria we could find no trace of either Thomas or Annie, though we did find the rest of her family (parents, brother and sister) now living in Enfield, Middlesex. Where could they be?
4) FINDING THE HIDDEN
The clue came with a stroke of luck such as often plays a part in tracing ancestors. Whilst trying to trace some of my Gooch ancestors I had struggled to find John and Susannah Gooch even though we knew the address where they should be living and knew they lived well past 1901. We could however find his eldest son Edward (and family) living in the house next door to where we expected to find John. On obtaining a transcript of the original returns we could see not only Edward and family at number 23 Kings Road, Tottenham but also next door at number 24 we could see John and Susannah and the younger children from that family. Only they were listed not as Gooch but as John and Susannah GOOD! Everything else in their details fitted perfectly and we knew that 24 Kings Road had been their address in 1891 and was still to be their address in 1912. A simple transcription error seems to have been the cause of the problem. Could something similar be happening with our missing Thomas and Annie Jupp?
Well, indeed it could. By searching for various miss-spellings of Jupp we eventually tracked them down to 24 Balham Road in Edmonton. Ironically, his father John Lewis and family were living at 19 Balham Road, thus showing how families remained close in those days. In the household were Thomas J and Annie S JOPP - another transcription error. All other details were as expected and there was no doubt we had found our couple. A simple lesson there, I think, that you must expect the unexpected.
5) THE LOST GENERATION
We had made great strides in finding some of our Jupp ancestors but there was one family that had long proved elusive. John Lewis's eldest brother, George, had been born in 1843. We had traced him to a marriage to an Eliza Emma Hanwell in 1866. In 1881 we had found the family again, now living in St Pancras. The family now consisted of George (an ornamental plasterer) and his wife Eliza with children Eliza Eleanor (born 1867), George (born 1869), Richard Edward (born 1872), Horace Leon (born 1874), Ernest Stephen (born 1877) and Henry Charles (born 1879). We have tried to find them in 1891 without success (largely because the 1891 census is not indexed and therefore a slow search) and we know that George senior himself died in 1896. Could the 1901 census help us relocate his children? We had only one clue, finding a marriage for Horace and an Elizabeth Roberts in 1905 in Newport, Monmouth (though Horace gave his address as Stratford, London). We therefore could expect to find at least Horace but could we find any of the others.
The searches proved frustrating, thus confirming this family as one of our most elusive. There was no trace at all of Horace Jupp and no Horace's at all that could fit him throughout the country. Likewise we could find no possible candidates for George junior or Richard Edward and the sister Eliza could easily be married (in 1901 she would have been 32) and thus hidden from us. Perhaps they had died at a young age.
For Henry there was one possible candidate listed as a sailor in Chatham and for Ernest, also just one candidate as a sailor in Southampton. Could these younger brothers have taken to a sea-faring life? Although the surface evidence was not conclusive it seemed worth the cost to investigate further.
The Henry Jupp turned out to be a Henry Charles aged 21 and born in the Kings Cross area of London, so all the facts fitted perfectly. His residence was given as "Pembroke Division"; Chatham, which I understand, refers to the particular barracks they were based in. (If anyone can shed further light on this then please contact us through the web Site).
The Ernest Jupp turned out to be an Ernest S Jupp, aged 24 and born in London. The facts are less informative than for Henry but they fit. He was described as an Able Seaman in the Royal Navy with an address in Southampton.
6) CAN ANYONE HELP?
Could these two individuals be the two brothers? If so, why go to sea? There was certainly no history of naval associations in the family but of course 1901 was at the time of the Boer war, so perhaps this had influenced their decision. Also, if they were indeed "our" Jupps then could we trace them forward? Does anyone know of how to trace individuals who served in the navy at that time? If so we would be grateful to hear. Also, if they are "our Jupps" and survived to leave the Royal Navy unscathed, then where would they turn up? Having left the area they grew up in they could resurface anywhere in the world. We will have to start searching on a much wider scale than before.
Perhaps some one has an ancestor named Henry or Ernest Jupp who emerged in an area with no apparent background. Again we would love to hear from anyone who might have come across these brothers. Or perhaps you have come across some of the other names mentioned here. If so and you have any information you would like to share then please contact us through the website.
7) AND FINALLY
One final search turned up another interesting possibility. We knew that George senior had died in 1896 but what of his widow Eliza Emma who was still alive at that time? Searching gave us one possibility of an Eliza Jupp aged 56 and living in Bray, Berkshire. This Eliza has a middle initial E, is a widow and was born in the St Pancras area which all fit nicely. But why Berkshire when we know of no previous connection to that area? It just goes to show that one can never get all the answers. The search goes on Here .
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More Census News
Our friends at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have continued their good work for genealogists. If you are one of the few that didn't purchase the 1881 Census on CD, you may not be aware that this is now available free of charge online.
This database contains 1638 exact spelling Jupp individuals. Also available on their website are the 1880 US Census (56 Jupps) and the 1881 Canadian Census (21 Jupps).
All are free to view Here
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BMD - Update
My fingers are sore from all that typing. I'm still working on the Birth and Death databases, but the marriages we have all but finished. I say finished, but what I really mean is as far as I had intended to go at this time. The intention was to have all the Jupp marriages between 1837 when Civil Registration began through to 1901 (to allow any finds from the 1901 Census to show up).
Well, it's complete up to 1906 apart from 3 quarters. They are Mar 1840, Mar 1844 & Dec 1846. Rest assured, these will be added soon. Of course there may be some missing entries. As with all voluntary transcribing, errors do occur so don't give up if you don't find your Jupp among the 1600+ included.
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The Births Database was updated on 7th Jan 2003 and now contains 1356 entries.
Check out the BMD databases on the Records page now.
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Interesting Websites
You may like to check out the following websites which I have found most interesting.
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I didn't find any Jupps, but if you have any ancestors from the parish of BADSEY ST JAMES in Worcestor (Badsey & Aldington) visit Here
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There is a good Local & Family History Resource site Here
I found a Buriel Record for a Mary Jupp in Southport, Lancashire who died in 1882 aged 53.
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It's a pay per view site, but Here I found 109 references to Jupps on the free searchable index.
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Don't forget:
The Jupp Newsletter is open for anyone who wants to share any information or post a query. If you wish to add anything, please contact me at genealogy1@sprignall.freeserve.co.uk
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