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Jupp Newsletter

ISSUE 7
JUNE 2002

Welcome to the 7th quarterly Issue of the Jupp Newsletter.
My entries in both 'Family Tree Magazine' and the 'GRD 2002' continue to attract interest from Jupp researchers that either hadn't already discovered this site or don't have computer access. As a result I'm pleased be able to add more information to this site including, BMD and Census database entries, researchers interests and descendant reports. This and any other information will be added in due course. At this point I must apologise for a lack of updates in recent times. This is due to other commitments, but I hope this hasn't spoilt your enjoyment and that you will continue to support this site. – Mark Gooch

Contents:

New Guestbook Entries
A Snapshot of the past
Newsletter Archives & Index Page
BMD Update
Bits & Pieces
Archives


New Guestbook Entries

I would like to welcome the following Jupp researchers who have made entries in the Guestbook (on the
home page) since our last Newsletter:

Anne Harrison, Richard William Jupp, Stewart Neill jupp, Pat Rocks, Neill Jupp, Arleen Halsey, Trevor Bainbridge, Noel Jupp, Anthony Jupp, Anne V Scott, Jennifer Sarah Margaret Jupp & Gordon Geoffrey Jupp.

There are also a few new entries on the Researchers page

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A Snapshot of the past - by John Gooch


Plaistow Hall in modern times

In a prominent position in the centre of the village of Lingfield, Surrey stands Playstow Hall Built over 100 years ago, (in 1885) by 1976 the building was now standing empty. The hall had been passed down by John Jupp to his nephew William Ernest Ovenden who had been brought up by him. It subsequently passed to William’s son John and part of it was eventually sold to the Post Office. When the Post Office sold its half to the District Council they had plans to purchase the other half from John Ovenden and demolish the building to make way for old peoples flats. An article in the East Grinstead Courier dated 21/12/1976 highlighted these arguments at District Council level over the plans to convert the site. Its very future looked bleak.

However, after a lot of fuss and public meetings the District Council were prevented from knocking down the building and they sold their half of the building to a local builder who was to renovate the now derelict site. When renovation work was later begun however, the builders
were overwhelmed to discover ancient documents relating to the building of the Hall. They had been crammed together with a variety of artefacts into a small tin box and placed in the chimneybreast during the original building of the hall.

They had been placed there by the builder and owner of the Hall, a Mr John Jupp, the eldest son of William Jupp, farmer of ‘Snouts Farm’, Blindley Heath. He obviously hoped that the contents would survive long after his death and it was his intention, he stated, to “ give the inhabitants then living a little account of how Lingfield was in the year of our Lord, 1885”. Thanks to his foresight we do have that most remarkable snapshot of the village at the time of the building of Playstow Hall.

The document is dated Monday, August 11th, 1885 (when John Jupp would have been 34) and begins by confirming his background and stating that the building was begun on July 21st 1885 with a list of the workmen involved. their skills and the wages they would receive:

Henry Boorer, foreman bricklayer at 5/3 per day,
William Faulkner, bricklayer at 5/- per day,
John Fowler, labourer at 3/- per day,
Henry Payne, labourer at 3/- per day,
John Fuller, carpenter and joiner, at 5/6 per day,
William Fuller, carpenter and joiner at 5/6 per day,
George King, bricklayer, at4/6 per day.
All the men were local.

John Jupp then went on to describe Lingfield at the time of writing. He described it as “ a somewhat scattered village”. Its places of worship were “the grand old Parish Church of St Peter and St. Paul” whose vicar was the RevD Wilmot Guy and a Baptist Chapel in Plaistow Street, the Minister being Mr Beal from Copthorne. There was also Dr Austen’s Mission Room adjoining the National Schoolroom, which was the venue for various speakers.

He comments on the new Railway from Croydon to East Grinstead as having been newly opened some 18 months ago (this would make it around about the beginning of 1884) and goes on to list the Public Houses in the immediate vicinity.

These included the ‘Greyhound Inn’, apparently commonly known as ‘The Dog’, (landlord George Stone), ‘The Hare and Hounds’ at Lingfield Common (landlord William Plummer) and ‘The Star Inn’ (landlord Arthur Wood) which exist today. He also mentions ‘The Lingfield Hotel’ (landlord Mr Summers) which was destroyed by fire in the 1980’s and replaced by a small housing development.

Amongst the principle gentry living in the neighbourhood at the time were J Spender Clay of Ford Manor, Dormansland, the Abraham’s of Norton’s, Dormansland, the Burleigh’s of Claridges, a Mr Moon of Starborough Castle, Mrs St Clair of Faringdon’s, Miss Rose St Clair of Roslyn Cottage, Joseph Carter Wood of Felcourt House, Major Margary of Chartham Park and Mr Walker who lived at Waterside.

John Jupp also goes on to list the various businesses in the village, which included a Post Office, several grocers and at least a couple of Bakers. It is interesting to note that Robert Taylor, adjoining the Lingfield Hotel also doubled up as Land Surveyor and Architect! He lists himself, as a ‘Jack of all trades’, which we will see, is a rather appropriate description!

He finishes the document by paying tribute to Benjamin Groves, his old schoolmaster whom he describes as “ now an old man, but [who] still continues as he has for so many years to be the parish clerk and man of the parish”.

John Jupp’s final request was that his “ brief account” when (and if) found should be handed over to the Vicar of the Parish (“or some competent person”) for safekeeping. This was duly done and the box was passed to the parish council in 1982.

When the building of Playstow Hall was begun in 1885, John Jupp was 34. What more do we know of this man? He was born the eldest son of William Jupp of Snouts Farm, Blindley Heath. How long the Jupp family had leased the farm we do not know but some aspects of the farm’s history are known. In 1651 the farm (then Snowtes Farm) was bought by a William Bysh and it remained in the Bysh family for at least a century. By the mid 19th century it was occupied by William Jupp, then a farmer and leading light in the local church. The building remained a farm until the mid 1930’s when it became ‘Snouts Drinking Club’, later renamed the ‘Red Barn’. Towards the end of the war the house was residential and the barn a kindergarten school room. It became a pub, sometime after 1974.

By 1913, John Jupp (commonly known as Johnnie) was living in Playstow Hall, the home he had built in 1885. He was a well-known figure in the village. Apart from being the village chemist he also ‘pulled teeth’, cut hair and took photographs: the real ‘jack of all trades’ as he had described himself. At the rear of his premises was a large hall, known as the Village Hall or sometimes ‘Jupp’s Hall’. In addition to his central role in village life through his shop, John Jupp was also to become influential in another matter.

According to reports, people in the village had long complained about the junction of Vicarage Road and Plaistow Street being dangerous after dark. This is close to the Old Oak Tree, which still stands today. As well as agreeing the need for a street lamp, John Jupp decided to do something about it. He placed a collecting box on the counter of his shop and in due course enough money was collected to erect a lamppost complete with lamp in the shadow of the Old Oak (1913). Mr Jupp or his assistant Ernie then took on the duties of lighting and cleaning the lamp and keeping it supplied with paraffin.

So there we have the story of a man who in more ways than one left his mark on Lingfield. Not only through the building of Playstow Hall and the instigation of the first village lamp but through his foresight in leaving a document that gave such an insight into life in the village over a century ago.

Cuttings and articles from the following newspapers were used in compiling this story:

East Grinstead Observer
East Grinstead Courier
Surrey Mirror

Particular thanks to Rita Russell who forwarded the information and provided the modern photograph of the Hall, to John Ovenden and Joe Bysh.

This is how the Jupp family appear on the 1881 Census:
Dwelling: Snouts Farm
Census Place: Tandridge, Surrey, England
Source: FHL Film 1341190 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0805 Folio 88 Page 19

Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Willm. JUPP M 58 M Burstow, Surrey, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Farmer Of 157 Acres Employ 3 Lab & 1 Boy
Ann M. JUPP M 56 F East Grinstead, Sussex, England
Rel: Wife
John JUPP U 29 M Tandridge, Surrey, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Student Of Medicine
Arthur JUPP U 15 M Tandridge, Surrey, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Farm Lab
Joseph JUPP 13 M Tandridge, Surrey, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
George GALLAND U 14 M Lingfield, Surrey, England
Rel: Ser
Occ: Farm Serv
Susan BISH U 14 F Lingfield, Surrey, England
Rel: Ser
Occ: Gen Serv


Does anyone have any more information on the life of John Jupp or the history of Snouts Farm? - contact me at
genealogy1@sprignall.freeserve.co.uk


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Newsletter & Archives Page

I have recently added a new page to the site,
Newsletter Archives & Index which is also linked from the Home Page

Here you will find an Index to past Newsletters plus an A-Z of various articles that have featured in each quarterly issue, in case you have missed anything.

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BMD - Update

The continuing project to transcribe all the Jupp entries from the BMD records at the Public Records Office is progressing at a steady pace. It is hoped to at least complete the early years from 1837 up to 1900+ to provide a comprehensive search facility to locate your Jupp ancestors. I also hope to link various records together with the help of census returns to form family groups. I have had some positive feedback regarding these records, many from those abroad who don’t have access to the original Indexes. Remember that I welcome any volunteers to this project that can spare any free time on their next visit to the PRO or local Family History Centre. Contact me at
genealogy1@sprignall.freeserve.co.uk

The latest entries have been added to Databases on the Records Page . We now have 923 Births, 1312 Marriages, 741 Deaths & the Census database now has 295 entries.

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Bits & Pieces

The bits and pieces section of the Newsletter is open for anyone who wants to share any information or post a query. If you wish to add anything, please contact me at
genealogy1@sprignall.freeserve.co.uk

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Peter Gardiner tells me that his great grandfathers brother, Albert Gardiner was known in all circles as "Jupp" Gardiner. Apparently, he bore a striking resemblance to one of the Jupp cricketers feartured in our earlier newsletters. Albert who was born 30 July 1867 in Orange, NSW, Australia and died in Waverley, NSW on 14 Aug 1952, was a cricketer himself and the nickname stuck. Albert was elected to the NSW Legislative Assembly in 1891, (aged 23). Then from 1910 to 1926, he sat in the Federal Senate.

June 2005:

Extract from The Biographical Dictionary of the Australian Senate - volume 1 1901-1929 editor Ann Millar
Gardiner, Albert (1867-1952)

Albert (Jupp) Gardiner, carpenter and free trader, has the dubious distinction of holding the record for the longest speech ever made in the Federal Parliament - an all-night "stonewaller" in 1918. Coincidentally, it was the youthful Albert's resemblance to an English cricketer, one Henry Jupp, alias "Young Stonewall", which led to his being dubbed "Jupp". Both Henry Jupp and his Australian namesake were broad-shouldered men who did not budge from entrenched postions.

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Sheila Hunt writes:

I have a very tenuous Jupp connection, but it may interest somebody.

My ancestor, Edmund Dye, b.1791, married twice. His second wife was a widow named Mary Skinner, maiden name Jupp. The wedding was 18 Dec 1856. Edmund was over sixty, and possibly she was too. Although they married in London, where both appear to have been living at that time, they returned to warren's Farm, Sundridge, Kent, where Edmund died in Jan. 1871 leaving his son William to continue running the farm. I've traced Mary in the 1881 census, but don't have the details to hand. As far as I can remember she went to live with her brother, who was a butcher. She died in Penshurst of "natural decay" in August 1877 in the presence of her niece, Emily Perry.

Does anyone have a connection with this Mary Skinner nee Jupp

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Margaret Gott on a recent visit to the Royal Tank Regiment Museum at Bovington in Dorset, UK, noted the following in the showcases of medals.

Cpl E A Jupp, Royal Tank regiment, Second World War

Military Medal
'39 - '45 Star
Africa Star and Bar
Italy Star
War Medal
Imperial Service Medal

Medals given by Mrs Doris Jupp

Five of them are awarded for "being there" but the Military Medal would be worth following up as would his service record.

There was also a photograph of Corporal Jupp and the number on the small plaque adjacent to the medals was 2682.

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Archives

Newsletter – Issue 1 – December 2000
Newsletter – Issue 2 – March 2001
Newsletter - Issue 3 - June 2001
Newsletter - Issue 4 - September 2001
Newsletter - Issue 5 - December 2001
Newsletter - Issue 6 - March 2002
Newsletter - Issue 8 - September 2002

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