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This is hatemail received by a lover who eventually turned into a hater. He told me that in an IM conversation approximately two months after this mail.

From: GengarPunk@aol.com
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 20:09:03 EDT
Subject: hate-mail
To: hbdragon88@yahoo.com

write this in your hate-mail, hot-shot (Is that a challenge? You got it!). I know Pokemon can sometimes teach bad things like hitting, or cheating (Yes, that is all over my site...). But really people, kids that HATE pokemon lie and cheat (Will you read my site, bub? I have constructed an AP site of such merit, and yet most of you all disregard that and bomb me like hell - mostly not even reading the site.), and most the people i know that like pokemon are never rude (Never? Recheck your definition. They may not be rude to you but are very rude to me, though I do not personally insult them or Pokemon directly), they have good manners (Good manners as to what? You mean senselessly bombarding me, my site, and hundreds of other AP sites? And setting up malicious AAP sites?), and never lie (Yeah? AAP lies, cheats, and does much worse than me or my site will ever conceive to even doing!)or cheat. so while you're sitting back bad-mouthing pokemon, kids are playin pokemon and are getting taught to love and care for their pet/ pokemon (If you really want to care for pets, care for a dog. Visit the animal shelter. They will give you real love, not the Gameboy screen). I have alot to say to you so IM me sometime (I did. Obviously, after viewing my site once, you didn't want to do that again, which makes it entirely pointless to IM you; ignorance is something that I will more than likely not tolerate). I don't think you should say pokemon's soooooo wrong if other people think it is right (God! It's an opinion and everybody has an opinion! This is mine!). that would be you stating a fact that pokemon's wrong whil it's an opinion (Fact and opinion are two different things. It is a fact that their are bad morals in Pokemon. A fact that parent's have a duty; AAP is libel and lies; and so on!). you should at least say "I THINK" pokemon's wrong (Maybe I should. But that would represent a lower level of writing; to say I think. I know Pokemon's wrong and that's that. Wrong for certain age groups; wrong in certain aspects.). That's all i have to say. and ddon't think i hate you (If you don't hate me that what was that verbal outburst to me a few weeks after our first IM: "SHUT THE FUCK UP!"? And I didn't even say anything but a polite "Hello" FYI) just cuz you hate pokemon cuz i dont (Read the above; and IM or e-mail me about that) unlike most ap's say that pokemon luvers are brainless stupid gays. (Uncover the other side of AP, and search for the true side of AP. Just do it!)

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Name: Anonymous
IP: 212.129.166.140
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Bad Morals: My opinion
Email:
: none

Geez! You say that Pokémon Sucks, but do you have any (good) reasons why?? (Read the site!) All (Who's all? I am not part of the mainstream Anti-Pokemon) you 'Anti-Poke-Folks' say is: Pokémon Sucks, Pikachu sucks, Ash is Gay etc.

I doubt it if any of you have a GOOD reason why Pokémon SUCKS (I doubt if any of you have a GOOD reason why you have to FLAME my site)

Untill you have a good reason I'll just me laughing at you (Boy, do I pity you - closed to new ideas and beliefs. Enclosed in your happy world.)

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Name: Mari-Ashley Ketchum
IP: 62.163.80.65
Subject: Re: Re: Bad Morals: My opinion
Email: antiantipokemon@yahoo.com

(These are excerpts from the real text - Ketchum took my whole bad morals page and turned it into a your text-my response thing.)

>>>>Team Rocket usually tease each other. Team Rocket are the
'bad-guys' in Pokémon. It doesn't matter. It is a funny part of the episode for children. It's not bad, because it's drawn. (Any bad thing in any form, even drawn, is bad. Just outright. To kill a "drawn" monster in "Doom" (no offense to Doom fans) is bad. Unless you means something different than from "drawn")

>>>>As I said, Team Rocket are evil, but, James thought he did a good
thing, borrowing money from the others so he could build a machine to catch Pokémon. If it would work, Giovanni would be proud of them and they wouldn't need to worry about money anymore. (You missed the point entirely. The point was, if you take money without asking, then that's not good and doesn't reflect well on the children. Not the fact that he did it for the good of the team. The first sentence was my point on the issue)

>>>>Team Rocket are idiots. ^^ And that's a funny part of the show. (Yes...you don't get tired of the tasteless "We're blasting off again!" thing? Even when I was a fan before, I was getting sick of that.)

>>>>*coughs* It doesn't teach elotrocuting is a way to settle a
dispute.
And Pikachu rarely shocks them both. (Point missed again. It is a facade - a disguise - for using anything but talks to settle the dispute. Not good to see.)

>>>>How old are you? (14? You?) Jeez! It's a cartoon! When will it get through to
you? In cartoon everything
is possible.
But, since you prefer reality so much (Reality is something that bites - I lived in my world of imagination and when I went to reality it was hard. And I support cartoons to a point - Pokemond drags it too far), would you rather see Team Rocket actually get hurt and die? (I didn't say that. What I would like to see is a little less silliness on Team Rocket's part. The silliness is realkly quarky) Well that would be a good thing to show children.. (Cartoons are seperate from reality - my point is that cartoons should not be so foolish - there is a point where entertainment goes too far, and Pokemon represents that)

Cartoon! It's a CARTOON!! (Yes, you've told me that many times)

(Drake wants to win the match. The fact that Dragonite was exhausted doesn't mean he would die if he tried to go on.) (Like before, you missed the point what I was trying to make: it would be heartless to push someone so far as to make them faint in a championship match. The Pokemon should become the first, not the last priority - and stepping down would be the right thing to do and teach children something - that friends come before competiton. Instead it doesn't teach them anything)

(Dragonite was his last Pokémon. Dragonite would get rest after the match anyway. Trainers really ain't as heartless as it seems.) (When they will put the match ahead of their Pokemon (I am well aware of a few rare occurances where they will be good sports and step down) it endangers the health of the Pokemon. From this is should be apparantly obvious: it's the match ahead of the health)

(That's what he had to do. Tauros wouldn't die! Ash knows what he does.) (What...to impress everybody? Seriously, there is a point that it's obvious that you should call it a game, shake hands, and walk off triumphantly that you have done your best - not wearing down your Pokemon to dead exhastion, so much that they're kneeling on the ground catching their breath)

Yes I would actually like the show to be realistic. (Yeah! You'd like
to see the Pokémon die and stuff? That'd be great for the children to
see.) (If they varied the scenarios more I wouldn't gripe about is so much, you know) And the show sucks because the same stuff happens everytime... (It's a children's cartoon. Don't forget.) They try to steal pikachu or some other Pokemon and then the blast off again...Gay (The over-used word) and repetetive... (Yes...finally we agree on some points - finally. After posts and entries of bitter arguments.)
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Just because you prefer other cartoons, doesn't mean you should bash Pokémon and try to make it look bad to everyone. (Why not? I would like to patronize (promote) other cartoons as alternatives to Pokemon and other Anime.)

You say Pokémon teaches bad morals, like the blasting off thing. Then you say, you wish it was realistic. That means you'd like to see them blass off and die. Then wouldn't you care about what children get to see? (This is why I encourage alternatives, because I think that if kids are going to watch, they should get something out of it - education.)
Pokémon = OK!! (To you. Not to me)
But if actual bad things like that would happen, then, yes, I'd agree
with the bad morals and stuff. (Oh yay - something that will not happen...)

Have a nice day. (I will try - hopefully) XD

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Name: Mari-Ashley Ketchum
IP: 62.163.80.65
Subject: Face it.
Email: antiantipokemon@yahoo.com
: none
A fact is, Pokémon survived Anti-Pokémon. Why do I say this?
Pokémon started about 7 years ago, so did Anti-Pokémon, probably.
Poké-Haters have been trying everything within the past 7 years to stop
it. (The "survival" you claim is not a survival. The Fourth movie went direct to movie. There is no publicity for the new Neo Gensis, Discovery, Revelation, and Destiny. I had no idea of the new GBA (Game boy Advance) games and the only publicity was a small column in a game magazine. Pokemon is literally dead and if it is continuing, it is a struggling, small thing now, its destiny spinning off to the fate of the Power Rangers - an ongoing series that has been left in the dust of other trends.)
And did they succeed? No! (Time succeeded, not us - we only had a hand - so what do you say to that?)
Pokémon has survived everything, the hate, other Animé, like Dragonball, Yu-Gi-Oh, or other things like Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, etc. (Not-uh! Yu-Gi-Oh has swept the nation into a world of change. In San Fransisco Chinatown there were kids trading Yu-Gi-Oh cards, not Pokemon like before)
There is nothing to argue about anymore, Anti-Pokémon is pointless, a waste of time. (You seem to want to argue with us which aspires me to continue my Anti-Pokemon pride)

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Name: Mari-Ashley Ketchum
IP: 62.163.80.65
Subject: Hmm.
Email: antiantipokemon@yahoo.com
: none

(Again, an excerpt, but nothing edited out of Ashley's text.)

By leaving nasty messages in Pokémon-Fan-Sites' guestbooks, you may not directly attack the fans, but it is to us what you're writing. (Listen, if I'd do a thing like that, it's a message inviting them. If they feel obliged to come to the site, then that's there own decision and not mine. I only think that they may want something differnt.)If you would attack Pokémon, and not us, you'd be dealing with Satoshi Tajiri and Tsunekazu Ishihara. (Who's Tsunekazu Ishirhara But what you're saying here is to attack the creators, not the show itself. But the creators are not the issue. It's what in Pokemon that is why I started my site.)

I know who hacked my site. (Good for you. I do too, you know.)My ex-co-webmaster told me a certain hater treatned to hack, and kill him if he didn't tell him the password. (So what's the benefit for hiding who did the dirty deed, then? Afraid of telling us publicy?)
And also he was so lame to let an other person do the work.

Of course it wasn't good to do! (I know it wasn't)I worked as hard on my site as you did on yours. It is not fair to hack. (Well, it's not fair to hack Anti-Pokemon Headquarters, either, a base site that is a major site to driving the engine of Anti-Pokemon) Do you think it was better than doing
nothing? (We retailiate for what you do to us) Man! What does it help if you hack our sites? That doesn't stop Pokémon. (It stops the threat that threatens Anti-Pokemon.) If you really want to reach your goal, bomb the building where Pokémon was created. Be sure to not miss anyone. (Anti-Pokemon is opinion. Anti-Anti-Pokemon is about destroying the opinion. That's why we focus on you and not the trend itself. My site is an opinion. So? It's not implied on dismantling Pokemon. It's for giving the other view. And that's why I resent Anti-Anti-Pokemon for trying to destroy that other view.)

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Name: Mari-Ashley Ketchum
IP: 62.163.80.65
Subject: No Subject
Email: antiantipokemon@yahoo.com
: none

(More excerpts only because she quoted my text again and I'm tight for space)

-Pokémon aren't animals. (Same argument again. It isn't supposed to be taken literally; just to give another view)

-Team Rocket works for Giovanni. Giovanni wants them to steal valuable
Pokémon. They don't have a choice, if they want to keep their 'job' (So, what you're saying, once you get a job, you're stuck with it for life)

-*Sighs* When will you ever understand that it's a children's show?
It's supposed to be funny! You might think it's lame, but children like
it. (Dry, stale the same thing is not funny. Definintely not funny)

-That's SO easy said!
They are plenty of alternatives for Anti-Pokémon; go build yourself an
Anti-rasicm site or whatever. (And there are plenty of alternatives for Anti-Anti-Pokemon: you do not have to dismantle the toher side; you can do everything else and leave us alone!)
Giving up Anti-Pokémon isn't the same as giving up your 'fun'.

Anti-Pokémon isn't the main thing people should care about. There are
much bigger problems in the world! (Right! So don't try to get rid of us: just get away from us! That's so easy to see: isn't it so easy to see?)

-If children like Pokémon, why shouldn't they buy the Pokémon Monopoly?
There's nothing wrong with that. (That's not the point. To think that they're learning this and that because they have Monopoly is wrong: so they shouldn't buy it)

This one, from DaBluElfMegaN@aol.com, is the co-webmistress of "Pokemon Lovers Defend Pokemon from those Dang PokeHaters!" Later she apologized for bombing this website, but still--here it is.

You Anti-Pokemon site is the worst Anti-Pokemon site (And yet, you have no complainants about the ones with bloody pictures?). Yeah people hit each other in Pokemon.. heh in almost every show they do (Not news casts or shows like 20/20, 60 Minutes, and Dateline).. unless you watch the gay nick shows.. I bet you watch rugrats and rocket power (I don't even have cable, and don't make false allegations that you can't prove)ha! Geeeze if you hate pokemon why waste you time on making a site about it? (Geeeze if you hate us so much why do you bother to flame us?) you sad little boy (Actually, I'm quite happy.). I'll give you some morals (Gotta hear this)
1. teaches you to believe in yourself (Only to an extent...)
2. do your best (More negative then positive effect)
3. even if you loose, your a winner.(By what? You are seen as imcompetent. When Ash lost to Blaine in round one of the fiery battle at Cinnabar Island, it sounded as Ash was a loser and even his friends questioned his ability to win--"I don't know how you can win against him," says Misty)
4. be friends

What you site teaches.
1. you are stupid (What about you and flaming this site? And your AAP friends?)
2. I hate pokemon and I waste my time to make a site about it (It's a cause that I believe in and I feel that I am using my time well doing this)
3. I have no clue what pokemon is about (This is one of the false allegations I receive, that I don't know nothing about it. I have watched the show. I have played the game. I even wasted five bucks watching the first movie!)
4. I listen to my mommy (That is libel, libel, libel, libel...writing something that intentionally destroys a person's reputation)
and more...

Get a life, little kid, wake up to reality. Your making yourself non-useful (Non-useful? Is that even a word?). Please seek help (Again and again, I hear this, yet nobody offers to pay for it...). If you wanna know what Pokemon is about, goto a good site (My site is a good site, for your information). I'll pray for you (First you insult me, then you are praying for me? Say what?). P.S. Maxpages sucks. (Oh really? Maxpages is not the norm, but is a representation of what has happened over the Internet: slowly pop-ups come in, then comes the time where you have to fork over money. This here, three pop-ups per page, it will avoid the paying dilemma--temporary solution, at least)

-your friend(Okaaaayyyy),
Megan.

Name: POKEFAN
IP: 203.45.232.148
Subject: Re: Tell-A-Friend
Email:
: none

Want to know why nobody is using your services? You are a pathetic
loser (Sure you're not talking about yourself?), as well as all other anti pokemon people out there. (And the typical Pokemon idiot who has nothing better to do than to flame me...)

windyaso-ap@yahoo.com

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